In the long list of things that I am not, journalist is somewhere near the top.
However, please bear with me because I think you'll enjoy the conversation I had with my good friend Dana DooDah who runs the Rotting Jewels YouTube, Patreon and Instagram accounts.
When it comes to parapolitical podcasts, her work is up there with Jimmy Falun Gong's Programmed to Chill, in my book. Her research is always fresh, challenging, fascinating and every episode is unbelievably information-dense.
That being said, I was not always a fan. Oh no-no-no. At first, I was very skeptical as I waited around for the inevitable hammer to fall on Maury Terry because, after all, that was the hot trend! But it never did, to my great relief, and I got hooked on her live streams.
And now, let's get on with the Q&A...
Nate: Most people who read this blog know damn well who Dana DooDah is, but just in case, for those one or two who have stumbled in on accident and just like it here without really knowing why, tell us a little bit about yourself and your work.
Dana: I’m a middle-aged hillbilly in the woods, ICU nurse, and depending on who you ask, I’m the Process Princess or the Process’ Shiva.
I think the latter is more appropriate as, when it was described to me, it was meant as me ‘destroying’ the narratives surrounding the cult; with time, possibly folding their entire house of cards.
So, that’s what my research is focused on: The Process Church of the Final Judgement AKA Best Friends Animal Society AKA Scientology AKA The Cult that every documentarian will tell you doesn’t exist.
If you question this answer, you’re dubbed a conspiracy theorist or Satanic Panic pusher – which has always been a red flag to me.
Nate: Take us back to a time before your Rotting Jewels channels; when did you first become aware of the topics you cover?
Dana: Initially, I think it was around late 2022. Life was a mess (what’s new) but I’d been off of ‘true crime’ reading for some time, and decided to get back into history. I read The Brothers by Stephen Kinzer and was, at the time, in disbelief of what we did in Vietnam.
I thought I was well versed in history because my father had taught me a lot about World War 2 & the geopolitical stage at the time, throughout my life, but I was wrong. From there I started ripping through whatever books I could find.
Looking back, I have to laugh because Kinzer is someone I’d categorize as a limited hangout, but I give credit where it’s due – he opened my mind to what some call ‘parapolitical’ history, which is just, in my opinion, a critical study of history that includes evaluating the narratives pushed by the media.
Nate: In your opinion, what are five parapolitical books everyone should read?
Dana:
The Devil’s Chessboard, Family of Secrets, Programmed To Kill,
Aberration in the Heartland of the Real, and The Mad Bishops. The first
and last should be required reading before anyone can make a public
comment on the JFK assassination. Nate: Thanks to you I am PTK-pilled so I will definitely check out the rest.
You don’t do “hero
worship” but you make no bones about your respect and admiration for
Dave McGowan. If you could ask him one question, what would it be?
Dana: The ‘what’ and ‘who’ of when things went south leading up to his death.
Nate: How about Ed Sanders? One question.
Dana:
John Linley Frazier…do you think he was seen with girls of The Family?
(Anyone with reading capability can see the Frazier trial was almost
worse than Manson).
Nate: And now ol’ Hubbs, L. Ron! If you had a chance to pick his brain what would you ask?
Dana: Were you and your spooky friends sampling the wares of the ladyboy district in Tangier?
Nate: Ha!
Let's talk about the Son of Sam case, for a moment. What are the odds that David Berkowitz acted alone?
Dana: Fake news.
I’d
ask what are the odds that two men, one rumored to have mafia ties and
the other a braggadocious mafia-man, are allowed to broadcast what was
clearly a “sit down” under the guise of being ‘men of the cloth’. Let’s
call it what it was – two wandering bishops with uncomfortably close
ties to a very real, active network, having a sitdown with the man often
referred to as the ‘Son of Sam’.
The
corruption of the NYPD, coupled with examples like the aforementioned
sitdown, or certain documentarians showing up unannounced to ‘visit’
David should tell people that something is very wrong.
We’re
supposed to be this bastion of proper jurisprudence and we’re supposed
to recognize that everyone has rights – and while I acknowledge that
statement is often laughable due to system corruption as a country, when
we’re talking about the Son of Sam case, David Berkowitz’s rights have
been violated ten ways from Sunday.
I’ve had people ask why something like the Innocence Project doesn’t get
involved and when I remind them of the NYPD and mafia looming in the
background, the response I usually get is, “Oh, yeah. They probably
wouldn’t do it.”
Nate: Don’t you find it a little
too convenient that so many of these people leading the charge against
Maury Terry and the “cult theory” have so many ties to the Temple of
Set, Temple of Satan, Yonkers PD, NYPD...
Dana:
Bootlicking parading as convenience. The way some of them behave and
insult other people’s intelligence, it tracks. They think they’re
smarter than everyone but the truth always outs.
Nate: Surely your research has led you to one or two “oh shit” moments where you can’t believe what you’ve just seen. Are there any that stick out?
Dana: Two are at the fore of my mind.
One that, I am sure for those who know me, are already thinking about.
George from CAVDEF sent me some of Ed’s files in late 2023. I think I’d just finished getting through the Process’ libel suit they lost against Ed Sanders in the UK.
Part of the discovery Ed got was the Process’ internal meeting minutes for various chapters. They shut down their Rome chapter right after the murders at Cielo Drive, and the IRS confirmed Robert DeGrimston was in Rome the same time the Polanskis were. The timing is suspicious, for lack of a better word.
It was very emotionally overwhelming to consider the implications of it. It still is, at times, but I no longer hold the view that what happened was out of left field. There was a lot of dark stuff going on, and there’s still connections being made. I’m keeping what I’ve put together thus far ‘close to the chest’ for the moment.
The second one is the damn tapes from the Manson case. Let me get one thing straight here – there is no disconnecting Manson from the Son of Sam. There’s too much nonsense with seemingly disparate parties working together behind the scenes that, in my opinion, its blatantly obvious the cases are related.
Now, for those who have watched the Son of Sam series on Netflix, or seen the preview on Youtube, there’s a lot of images that flash in succession. It’s easy to miss things. I edit a lot of videos so I’m able to go frame by frame, and someone had pointed out to me that one of the images appears to match (to a T) one of the films rumored to have been taken by the police after the murders.
The frame before that is Manson turning his head to look and squint – it moves so fast you can easily miss it.
Re-reading Ed’s files and book, countless biographies and police reports, the existence of the tapes can’t be denied. The existence of a very specific black and white tape, as is the still I’m referring to, can’t be denied either.
So, you gotta wonder just how many friends in high places these documentarians of “true” crime have. Honestly, it feels like a huge mockery and “fuck you” to the public.
Nate: Oh my God. If this is true, do I even want to know how he got his sticky little doo doo and chocolate fingers on that still?
Independent of any kind of conspiracy research, I have heard that there is indeed an underground Hollywood tape-trader scene. David Lee Roth was said to have shelled out some big bucks for a tape featuring Elvis and Mary Tyler Moore, which was shot when they were filming a movie called Change of Habit.
Alright Dana, speaking of film, haha, another top five: what are five documentaries that are absolutely essential viewing (“streaming services”, YouTube, rental or otherwise)?
Dana: Conspiracy of Silence, The Clown and The Candyman, A Very Heavy Agenda (even though the director is a spook & total dick for getting one of my McGowan posts removed on X, its incredibly well done and very relevant to geopolitics right now for anyone acting surprised about anything), the most recent Wonderland Murders series (it gives a great history of the drug network but ultimately leads you down the wrong path as to who was involved, par for the course) and – this is gonna be a real hot take but hear me out:
The Sons of Sam. Only if you have Netflix already.
To watch the assassination of a man’s legacy and character by way of an emotional rollercoaster of high quality visuals and production value and cherry-picked storylines; I’ve never seen a bait & switch like it before.
It made a lot of sense when The Octopus Murders ended up doing the same thing to Danny Casolaro.
I think people need to see propaganda in order to identify it – hone your spidey senses, ya know? When you see how much effort has to go into a production like that to make one person seem uncredible, right at the end of a series, it becomes easier to identify; at least, this has been my experience.
Nate: At first, Sons of Sam didn't really bother me. I didn't see the point of making it about Maury. That annoyed me. But really it was the aftermath that set me off. We had Det. Kevin Murphy confirming Maury's research and seeing his own work shelved, but online I'd see all this chatter about "leading questions, leading questions" as if that completely invalidated the entire investigation. And then things got worse from there. I could go on and on...
Anyway, we're coming to a close so let me ask you what’s the strangest or funniest "hot take" on your work that you’ve ever seen?
Dana: That I’m working for The Process or out on a honeypot loan from Scientology. People get really weird about this topic.
Nate: Yes they do! Lastly, do you have any hobbies besides making enemies in all the right places?
Dana: I like to paint, though I’m not good at it, and I like thrifting. I could spend an entire afternoon in the book section of a thrift store. I’m also known to make some fantastic brownies.
That was fun and Dana is awesome. I hope you guys enjoyed it.
And never forget: I love this crowd!!
What a nice surprise! That was excellent!!
ReplyDeleteThank you!! ❤️
DeleteGreat interview. Thank you both for your time! -soillodge
ReplyDeleteGlad you liked it! ❤️
DeleteDana is one of few positive forces out there.Thanks for talking to her.
ReplyDeleteShe absolutely is and it was an honor!
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