Hey all, quick reminder, if you haven't read Carl Denaro's book, The Son of Sam and Me: The Truth About Why I Wasn't Shot by David Berkowitz, please do. It works great as a companion to The Ultimate Evil but also stands on it's own.
The following is an excerpt:
@Manny
ReplyDeleteWhy should Carl trust YOU of all people when you claim a woman didn’t shoot Carl?
You have abused his trust, called him names, made fun of him, and now claim he’s the puppet master behind all the manufactured chaos.
He probably wouldn’t trust you to give him the time of day. So why is it your job to change his mind?
Manny is the ultimate example of the self obsessed. He also projects his own issues on to others. Carl has been chosen by Manny to be the source of all of his failures. In one breath Manny says he doesn’t believe in conspiracies and in another he thinks Carl is a puppet master pulling all the strings on people that despise Manny. Nothing of course could be further from the truth. Manny has made so many enemies for so many different reasons and almost none of it has to with Carl. And none are taking orders from Carl himself. Manny’s rant in Van Cortlandt Park yesterday was a pathetic and shameful display of a man in full breakdown. He lied about what caused the rift between him and Carl. Mostly he lied by omission and painted a false picture of what happened that day when they got Maury’s notes from Zeman. He also admitted his gardening company is no more. No surprise there. He clearly spent more mornings attacking people on Twitter than doing any real work. He’s now known as the Unemployed Gardener. He floated out there that 2025 will be his year. I beg to differ. Once this Netflix series comes out his character will be exposed everywhere a comment board or review page can be found. His first instinct will be to attack all critics but it will be too much. Also if a new audience comes to his page and sees how he is on his shows he will get even more critics. Manny will clearly not be able to handle all this and implode. Maybe he will leave for PR and his family farm never to be heard from again. One can hope.
DeleteAnd let’s not forget: on more than one occasion he has claimed to have seen lizard-people.
DeleteOn this basis alone, he has no business telling anyone what to believe.
Luis "Salty Ballbagger" Grossman: Unemployed Gardener.
DeleteMight not fit at Netflix circa 2025, but certainly would fit in at UPN circa 1995.
Dammit, Salty! Failure to Launch...again.
Re: Lizard people.
That one is so good even the Susan Lucci, the Lizard Queen, David Icke and Sherry Shriner gave it two thumbs up.
"Salty" claims he was just joking...his students at NYBG disagree.
TD
Oh yeah, he’s mentioned lizard-people in his videos (post NYBG) at least twice that I know of.
DeleteWatching Manny huff and puff on his walk, almost fall, vacillate between dissolving his business and running a gardening business at the end, name calling Carl, saying the blog wanted him turned into the DOJ or the FBI when it clearly said BBB, was painful to watch. I literally threw a blanket over my face.
ReplyDeleteI laughed out loud a couple of times, ngl.
DeleteNot sure why he thinks he needs personal info on people tho. That seems to be a pattern amongst people on the wrong side of the case.
Serious question here. Do you really think Carl Denaro wrote a quality book? And yes, there were more lies than anyone could count in Manny’s latest. He knows that no one believes his Savino farce that includes his inner circle. Lorenzo probably doesn’t believe it at this point. The exposure that he craves will only leave him more exposed. To quote Robert Axelrod “ This is the problem with squaring away your enemies list. You wake up all your enemies in the process. Smelling salts right in their fucking face” I have a feeling that you’re going to see a Voltron like effort to derail this prick, once we’re forced to endure him.
ReplyDeleteIt’s Carl’s story as told by Carl. On that basis I found it fascinating and if people are really into the case I think they should read it.
DeleteWhat are you talking about that no one in his inner circle believes in his Savino farce? Are you really going to force text message histories to go public? Keep it up.
ReplyDeleteSit down, Waldo!!
DeleteCan I pose a serious question, please?
ReplyDeleteExactly what has the community come to where people are acting like double and triple agents, no one trusts one another, people deliberately try to sabotage other people's research, people out suspect names, sources names, witness names, associate names publicly and hand them out for anyone to consume. And I've never witnessed such malignant narcissism in my damn life firsthand.
The VAST majority of the people in this community are not law enforcement and it is law enforcements jobs to fulfill their duties. That is why we pay taxes. It is why they are professionally trained. Is anyone in this community turning anything over to the FBI or the NYPD and insisting they look into cases further? Being persistent? Return receipts requested to document multiple turn ins and then just, I don't know, write a book or something else and call them out on it?
Has anyone thought for a second that Carl can't disclose information for legality purposes because the suspects named at his crime scene might still be alive and willing to litigate if their names are published? And maybe, just maybe, he has needed to withhold information for YEARS also to protect David Berkowitz and to make sure no one else gets injured or killed on his watch? Has Manny Grossman thought about how breaking the NDA has affected other people's lives other than his own? I mean, he supplied documents immediately to law enforcement officers and others, such as Jim Fay. Not cool.
Does anyone in this community (a few people actually do) truly give a shit about Carl Denaro or David Berkowitz or is it just all about finding and collecting more information or using it to socialize/network with one another? I mean, Carl is a victim for God's sake. He is tired of being gaslighted, including by Manny Grossman on a regular basis. Do you even comprehend how toxic that is to a person's mental health? Let alone someone with PTSD from a crime shooting? Do you have ANY IDEA YOU LITTLE POS Manny how much you damaged Carl Denaro with your repeated and most recent podcast? Again, do you only think of yourself?
Carl Denaro is not a puppet master, believe me. That made me FURIOUS. And I am no damn puppet. Carl and I have a demonstrated 3-year text history of kicking one another's asses over things we disagree on, smack talking one another, disagreeing with one another. Yet we always manage to let the shit go, compartmentalize, and move forward.
I'm very sorry you got trashed with gay memes, Manny. That meme assaulted my damn eyes. But your public display on YouTube was a god damned embarrassment. And they could not even be bothered to take it down when they have an audience of people 18-years and younger.
Do you think that maybe you triggered Mike so bad, needing to defend his friend, that you brought out the worst in him? Think about that, Manny. Talk it out in therapy. Get it off the airwaves. Pathetic.
You bring out the worst in people, Manny. I had one person who personally threatened to find you at a cafe and "take care of you". Guess what? I turned it in to the NYPD because I didn't want you injured. The guy has mob ties. On my phone records and then put the person on notice. This person harassed me for months. Did the NYPD bother to alert you, Manny? 20-Apr-2023, 7:46 am. LOOK FOR IT.
Damn.
DeleteThere are so many spot-on points to consider there.
And I’m just as guilty of greediness as anyone when it comes to documents, no question. Far be it from me to sit here and go, “yeah! All of you guys are f’d up!” I saw myself in there.
However, and this is just my opinion, yes Manny is very much aware of the damage he has done to Carl. That’s the whole point, it seems to me. If Carl never wrote that book and said those things he said in the excerpt, I bet it would be a different story.
Carl is one of the nicest, most laid back people you could ever hope to meet. Period.
And while many of us were suspicious of Carl for working with Manny a second time, hey, that’s Carl, willing to forgive and move forward.
Manny knows this and feels emboldened by it, mistaking kindness for weakness.
If I was trying to convince people that someone is innocent, I wouldn’t use lies, smear campaigns and intimidation tactics.
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Only someone with zero integrity would do that. And he said MT had no integrity! He has none! He will lie and intimidate just to be the NEW MT!
DeleteWhenever I see someone refer to Luisa as "the new Maury Terry" or "Maury Jr." I marvel at the utter ignorance involved...much the same as when the Dims called Trump "Hitler" every day over the last 8 years.
DeleteNot only is it just lame, but it betrays their lack of knowledge of both sides of the equivalency they try to make.
Li'l Walnuts, the British Witch, the Velvet Brain Fog, and the rest of the mongoloids who lap up the idiocy they puke out on a daily basis think the "new Maury/Maury Jr." thing is clever, but anyone with a brain sees it for what it is...less than mediocre, as an insult and as a critique.
TD
@TD
ReplyDeleteManny is anything but the "new Maury Terry". Pish posh, my gosh.
He bragged about doubling his views over the recent podcast, when, in all reality, most of the people watching had been texting one another, saying Manny was going live, and they couldn't wait to watch what word vomit was going to come out of his mouth. Manny is all about attention, whether positive or negative, and it all stems from his need to feed his narcissism.
I recently had a research partner you essentially reached out to me through e-mail, bitch slapped me, and said, "Focus! Manny is a distraction. We have better things to focus on". You know what? He is right. All the same, Manny's disinformation needs to be publicly called out when it is appropriate and when it is in the best interests of the case in the short term and the long term. And all Manny did through his behavior is make the situation worse for others who interact with him and who is advocates for. Sad state of affairs considering all he needs to do is admit when he makes an error instead of trudging forward, lying more, in an attempt to keep his sense of self intact.
Manny needs therapy. If it actually worked for narcissism. . .